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Hawke 10x42 Green Vantage Binoculars
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Hawke 8x42 Green Vantage Binoculars
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Hawke Nature Trek 9-27x56 Spotting Scope
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Vortex Razor Ultra HD 10x42 Binoculars - New 2024
Classic combo - This wide-aperture binocular with 10x magnification is ideal for all year round use in the British woodlands. Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 1.4m close focus. Abbe-König Prisms and Dielectric Coatings - These prisms feature multi-layer coatings which provide even more transmission. APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew listing this week
Limited Stock
£1,599.00
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 10x50 binoculars - New 2024
Strong and versatile - Bright 50mm optics with a strong 10x magnification provide exceptional all round use. Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 2m close focus. Abbe-König Prisms and Dielectric Coatings - These prisms feature multi-layer coatings which provide even more transmission. APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew listing this week
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 12x50 Binoculars - New 2024
Strong and versatile - Bright 50mm optics with a strong 12x magnification provide exceptional all round use. Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 2m close focus. Abbe-König Prisms and Dielectric Coatings - These prisms feature multi-layer coatings which provide even more transmission. APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew listing this week
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 18x56 Binoculars - New 2024
The big daddy - Huge 18x magnification and 56mm front elements for serious observation. Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 3m close focus. Abbe-König Prisms and Dielectric Coatings - These prisms feature multi-layer coatings which provide even more transmission. APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew listing this week
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 8x42 Binoculars - New 2024
Classic combo - This wide-aperture binocular with 8x magnification is ideal for all year round use in the British woodlands. Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 1.4m close focus. Abbe-König Prisms and Dielectric Coatings - These prisms feature multi-layer coatings which provide even more transmission. APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew listing this week
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 10x32 Binoculars
Classic combo - This mid-sized aperture binocular with 10x magnification is ideal for all year round use in the British woodlands. . Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 1.8m close focus. . APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. . XR Plus coatings - Anti-reflective XR Plus coatings help prevent flare and increase light transmission. . Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. . Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. . Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew this month
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£1,489.00
Vortex Razor Ultra HD 8x32 Binoculars
Classic combo - This mid-sized aperture binocular with 8x magnification is ideal for all year round use in the British woodlands. . Excellent up close - Easily magnify smaller subjects with the 1.8m close focus. . APO Optical System - APO combined with HD glass offer stunning colour and clarity. . XR Plus coatings - Anti-reflective XR Plus coatings help prevent flare and increase light transmission. . Impressive build quality - Optics are sealed with O-rings to prevent moisture whilst the outer shell is protected by ArmorTek. . Tripod mountable - Keep it steady with optional adapter. . Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew this month
Limited Stock
£1,439.00
Celestron StarSense Autoguider
Automatic alignment - Aligns your telescope to the night sky in about three minutes with no user input, thanks to Celestron’s patented StarSense technology. Autoguiding - Tracks celestial objects accurately for pinpoint stars in long exposure astroimages. Assisted polar alignment - Walks you through an easy, automated process to dial in the best polar alignment. High-quality 4-element optical design - Features a unique optical design by famed optical designer Mark Ackermann, with sharper optics than other mini-guidescopes. Multiple ways to control - Works with your NexStar+ hand control or CPWI telescope control software via a wired PC connection or WiFi. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew this month
Limited Stock
£749.00
Steiner Commander Thermal Imaging Device
Excellent night visibility - Thanks to its advanced thermal imaging technology, it requires no light source and provides mariners with clear vision, even in the absence of visible light. Maximum safety - This device not only ensures excellent night vision, but also detects potential dangers such as other boats or obstacles at an early stage. Ideal companion for expeditions - Adventurers who explore remote areas appreciate the reliability and versatility of the Commander Thermal. OLED display - High quality OLED display with a resolution of 1280x960 will improve recognition and identification. Waterproof and durable - The Makrolon polycarbonate housing for a virtually indestructible surface that withstands temperatures from -10°C to +50°C. Long operating times - Continuous working time more than 8.5 hours with on hand exchangeable batteries and power bank compatible. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew this month
Steiner Navigator Autobright 7x50 Binoculars
Sunlight-adaptive - The outstanding Autobright technology automatically adjusts the brightness to the respective lighting conditions. Comfortable and stable - The wave-like rubber armor texture not only provides a firm grip but also repels water to ensure non-slip handling in heavy seas. Crystal clear - The proven STEINER high-contrast optics ensure bright, high-contrast images with natural colour reproduction. Robustness and reliability - Developed in close cooperation with professional sailors, these binoculars are designed to perform reliably and efficiently even in the most difficult conditions. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gearNew this month
Steiner Navigator Autobright 7x50c Binoculars
Sunlight-adaptive - The outstanding Autobright technology automatically adjusts the brightness to the respective lighting conditions. Comfortable and stable - The wave-like rubber armor texture not only provides a firm grip but also repels water to ensure non-slip handling in heavy seas. Crystal clear - The proven STEINER high-contrast optics ensure bright, high-contrast images with natural colour reproduction. Robustness and reliability - Developed in close cooperation with professional sailors, these binoculars are designed to perform reliably and efficiently even in the most difficult conditions. Integrated compass - The built-in analog liquid-damped compass is not only shock-absorbing, but also precise and illuminable. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% FinanceNew this month
Swarovski 7x28 MY Junior Binoculars, Glacier Blue
Made to discover - The MY JUNIOR binoculars are perfect for youngsters to observe and explore. 7x Magnification Power - The 7x magnification offers plenty of power whilst allowing for jitter-free observation. Lightweight - At just 480g, these are easy to take on any adventure. Rugged Design - Thanks to their exceptionally rugged and child-friendly design, the MY JUNIOR binoculars promise many years of enjoyment. Easy Focussing - A visual guide on the center focussing wheel makes it easy to tell if you're focussed near or far. Ready to go - The MY JUNIOR is supplied with a comfortable strap and carrying case, as well as a notebook. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 7x28 MY Junior Binoculars, Jungle Green
Made to discover - The MY JUNIOR binoculars are perfect for youngsters to observe and explore. 7x Magnification Power - The 7x magnification offers plenty of power whilst allowing for jitter-free observation. Lightweight - At just 480g, these are easy to take on any adventure. Rugged Design - Thanks to their exceptionally rugged and child-friendly design, the MY JUNIOR binoculars promise many years of enjoyment. Easy Focussing - A visual guide on the center focussing wheel makes it easy to tell if you're focussed near or far. Ready to go - The MY JUNIOR is supplied with a comfortable strap and carrying case, as well as a notebook. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
In Stock
£399.00
Swarovski SC Cap Junior
Stylish - The nature enthusiasts of tomorrow can look cool while out and about on their adventures. Classic design - The baseball design not only looks cool but helps to keep stray light out of the eyes. Comfortable - A soft and comfortable fit that is easily adjustable with the clamp at the rear. Breatheable - Thanks to the 100% cotton construction, it is fully breatheable and great for keeping a cool head.
Vortex Anarch Image Stabiliser Rangefinder
Image Stabilization - Eliminates shake for a clear sight picture and easier ranging. PinSpotter Mode - Locks onto the pin with visual and vibratory feedback, keeping you locked into your game. Clear View Optics - See the course like never before with incredibly clear glass. Comfort Guard - Guards against impact and gives you a solid grip no matter the weather. Waterproof - Built to weather rainy rounds and sudden downpours. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Vortex Blade Laser Rangefinder
PinSpotter Mode - Locks onto the pin with visual and vibratory feedback, keeping you locked into your game. Clear View Optics - See the course like never before with incredibly clear glass. Comfort Guard - Protect against impact and gives you a solid grip no matter the weather. Waterproof - Built to weather rainy rounds and sudden downpours. Shockproof - Designed for impact, close contact with your cart or the ground is no problem. Shockproof - Designed for impact, close contact with your cart or the ground is no problem. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Vortex Blade Slope Laser Rangefinder
Slope Mode - Provides slope adjusted ranges for simple, point-and-shoot distances. PinSpotter Mode - Locks onto the pin with visual and vibratory feedback, keeping you locked into your game. Clear View Optics - See the course like never before with incredibly clear glass. Comfort Guard - Guards against impact and gives you a solid grip no matter the weather. Waterproof - Built to weather rainy rounds and sudden downpours. Shockproof - Designed for impact, close contact with your cart or the ground is no problem. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Zeiss DTI 1/19 Thermal Imaging Monocular
Perfect for observation - Easily locate wildlife with the 19mm wide field of view and outstanding optical performance. High detail sensor - The 384x288 pixel sensor allows you to detect heat sources in greater detail even when operating in obscured locations. Three observation modes - The DTI 1 features three pre-programmed observation modes: universal, detect and fog. Advanced detection mode - The new Zeiss DTI series allows you to see animals concealed in foliage much easier than ever before. Smart Standby - DTI 1 models can last up to 6.5 hours but you can extend the battery life even further by activating the smart standby function. App compatibility - Live stream or transfer images and videos directly to your mobile device via the Zeiss App. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Limited Stock
£1,475.00 £1,199.00
Zeiss DTI 1/25 Thermal Imaging Monocular
Perfect for observation - Easily locate wildlife with the 25mm wide field of view and outstanding optical performance. High detail sensor - The 384x288 pixel sensor allows you to detect heat sources in greater detail even when operating in obscured locations. Three observation modes - The DTI 1 features three pre-programmed observation modes: universal, detect and fog. Advanced detection mode - The new Zeiss DTI series allows you to see animals concealed in foliage much easier than ever before. Smart Standby - DTI 1 models can last up to 6.5 hours but you can extend the battery life even further by activating the smart standby function. App compatibility - Live stream or transfer images and videos directly to your mobile device via the Zeiss App. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
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Zeiss DTI 3/25 GEN2 Thermal Imaging Monocular
Perfect for observation - Easily locate wildlife with the 25mm wide field of view and outstanding optical performance. High detail sensor - The 384x288 pixel sensor allows you to detect heat sources in greater detail even when operating in obscured locations. Three observation modes - The DTI 3 features three pre-programmed observation modes: universal, detect and fog. Advanced detection mode - The new Zeiss DTI series allows you to see animals concealed in foliage much easier than ever before. Smart Standby - DTI 3 models can last up to 8 hours but you can extend the battery life even further by activating the smart standby function. App compatibility - Live stream or transfer images and videos directly to your mobile device via the Zeiss App. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Zeiss DTI 4/35 Thermal Imaging Monocular
Perfect for observation - Easily locate wildlife with the 50mm wide field of view and outstanding optical performance. High detail sensor - The 640 x 512 pixel sensor allows you to detect heat sources in greater detail even when operating in obscured locations. Three observation modes - The DTI 4 features three pre-programmed observation modes: universal, detect and fog. Advanced detection mode - The new Zeiss DTI series allows you to see animals concealed in foliage much easier than ever before. Smart Standby - DTI 4 models can last up to 7 hours but you can extend the battery life even further by activating the smart standby function. App compatibility - Live stream or transfer images and videos directly to your mobile device via the Zeiss App. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Zeiss DTI 6 ZB 20mm Lens for Thermal Imaging Camera
Expand your DTI 6 - This 20mm lens offers a wider feild of view, ideal for observing game in forested areas. Razor sharp - High quality optics offer a supreme viewing experience. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Zeiss DTI 6 ZB 40mm Lens for Thermal Imaging Camera
Expand your DTI 6 - This 40mm lens offers a narrower feild of view, ideal for closer observation. Razor sharp - High quality optics offer a supreme viewing experience. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Zeiss DTI 6 ZB Battery Pack for Thermal Imaging Camera
View for longer - Spare dedicated battery for the Zeiss DTI 6. Invaluable when you're in the field - The last thing you need is the battery running flat so always carry a handy spare. Practical - Supports in-scope charging as well as being compatible with the Zeiss DTI 6 ZB Charging Tray.
Zeiss DTI 6 ZB Charging Tray for Thermal Imaging Camera
DTI 6 ZB - Dedicated charging bay for the DTI 6 battery. Handy spare - Easily charge via mains or a portable powerbank. Lightweight - Small and lightweight design, easily fits in a pocket or bag.
Hawke Smart phone adapter, 60mm
Hawke Smart phone adapter, 60mm
Use your smartphone to effortlessly capture photos through your binocular, monocular or spotting scope in both landscape and portrait orientations.
Guaranteed compatibility with: Endurance ED 25-75x85 / Endurance ED 20-60x68 / Endurance ED Compact 15-45x60 / Endurance ED Compact 13-39 x50 / Nature-Trek 20-60x80 / Nature-Trek 16-48x65 / Nature-Trek 13-39x56 / Nature-Trek...
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£24.90
Swarovski 10x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Northern Lights Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Northern Lights carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's stylish field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 10x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Urban Jungle Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Urban Jungle carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's rugged field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 10x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Wild Nature Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Wild Nature carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's well know field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Limited Stock
£1,130.00
Swarovski 10x40 Habicht W Binoculars
Traditional in design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Porro Prisms . Rugged masterpiece - The Habicht are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. The 3D look - The Habicht provides a 3D look which cannot be replicated by any roof prism binocular. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Truly wide - The Habicht feature a truly unique wide field of view of 108m. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 8x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Northern Lights Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Northern Lights carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's stylish field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 8x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Urban Jungle Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Urban Jungle carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's rugged field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski 8x30 CL Companion Binoculars, Anthracite with Wild Nature Case
Elegant design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Roof Prisms. Compact design - Lightweight and beautifully ergonomic, the CL Companions fit perfectly in your hands. Rugged masterpiece - The CL Companions are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Wild Nature carry case - Pack your binoculars in Swarovski's well know field bag. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Limited Stock
£1,090.00
Swarovski 8x30 Habicht W Binoculars
Traditional in design - Beautiful aesthetics paired with high-end Porro Prisms . Rugged masterpiece - The Habicht are waterproof and built to the highest standard for a lifetime of use. The 3D look - The Habicht provides a 3D look which cannot be replicated by any roof prism binocular. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Truly wide - The Habicht feature a truly unique wide field of view of 136m. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear
Swarovski EL Range 10x32 TA Binoculars
Ground-breaking precision - The EL Range combines state-of-the-art optics with precise measuring functions. Ground-breakingly light - At 925g the EL Range 42's are light enough to take everywhere. Smart features - The app allows you to configure the binoculars to your own specific needs. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Tracking assistant - The integrated tracking assistant makes it much easier to track your subject. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Limited Stock
£2,800.00
Swarovski EL Range 8x32 TA Binoculars
Ground-breaking precision - The EL Range combines state-of-the-art optics with precise measuring functions. Ground-breakingly light - At less than 700g the EL Range 32's are light enough to take everywhere. Smart features - The app allows you to configure the binoculars to your own specific needs. Crystal clear - Wonderfully bright and clear viewing with vibrant and natural colours. Tracking assistant - The integrated tracking assistant makes it much easier to track your subject. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Limited Stock
£2,710.00
Swarovski Forehead Rest for EL Range 32 Binoculars
Comfortable viewing - The forehead rest provides a stable yet comfortable experience over extended periods. Tailored to you - The forehead rest has been designed to suit you and can be easily adjusted for perfect alignment. Great for glasses - Helps glasses wearers to get the perfect distance to the eyepiece.
Limited Stock
£132.00
Swarovski Spare Battery for AX Visio
View for longer - Spare dedicated battery for AX Visio. Provides two hours continuous use - Fifteen hours on standby. Five hour charge time. Invaluable when you're half way up a mountain - and your battery runs flat after a couple of hours use.
Celestron Nebula Filter for ORIGIN Intelligent Home Observatory
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Celestron ORIGIN Intelligent Home Observatory
6 inch/152mm f/2.2 RASA Optical Tube with Computerised GoTo Alt-Az Mount. Transmits the Image to phone, table or laptop with wi-fi. Sony Starvis CMOS Sensor, 2.4µ Pixels, Image Stacking for Detail & Colour. StarSense Sky Recognition Technology with Control via Origin Sky Mapping App. Built-In Smart Dew Heater & Thermistor. 97.9Wh LiFePO4 battery, 6-Hour Runtime, 2 Cooling/Filtering Fans. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Celestron Padded Carrying Bag for Celestron ORIGIN Intelligent Home Observatory
Celestron Padded Carrying Bag for Celestron ORIGIN Intelligent Home Observatory
Protect the optical tube of your Celestron Origin Intelligent Home Observatory with this Padded Carrying Bag.
Made of 900D polyester, the bag is lined with 1.5" of expanded polyethylene foam and an inner lining of soft polyester PVC. A circular zipper at the top end and a full-length zipper along the side make it easy...
Pre-order Deposit for Celestron ORIGIN Intelligent Home Observatory
6 inch/152mm f/2.2 RASA Optical Tube with Computerised GoTo Alt-Az Mount. Transmits the Image to phone, table or laptop with wi-fi. Sony Starvis CMOS Sensor, 2.4µ Pixels, Image Stacking for Detail & Colour. StarSense Sky Recognition Technology with Control via Origin Sky Mapping App. Built-In Smart Dew Heater & Thermistor. 97.9Wh LiFePO4 battery, 6-Hour Runtime, 2 Cooling/Filtering Fans.
Swarovski AX Visio
The first SMART BINOCULARS - the AX Visio with integrated apps open up access to nature and learning experiences with useful extra functions and different identification options. OBSERVE with outstanding optical quality - Experience nature in a whole new level of vibrancy. The SWAROVISION technology promises spectacular colour intensity and depth of detail as well as uncompromising image definition. IDENTIFY and expand your knowledge with every observation - The AX Visio identifies birds and other creatures at the touch of a button. SHARE DISCOVERIES – lock in your observation point before passing the binoculars to a companion. Upgrading? Check our offer for your old gear0% Finance
Browse our stock of Binoculars, Monoculars, Telescopes, and Spotting Scopes. We have something to suit everyone, from the budding Urban Birder to the junior Astronomer. We stock optics from Swarovski, Canon, Steiner, Zeiss, Nikon, Celestron, and Vortex.
The specification, eg 8x40, describes the magnification followed by the diameter of the front glass in millimetres. The first number divided into the second gives the light gathering power. Thus, a pair of 8x32 will be as bright as a pair of 10x40 but smaller and with less magnification.
Sizes up to 8x25 or 10x25 will slip into a trouser pocket. Cost, size and weight all go up as either number increases. It also becomes increasingly difficult to hold them steady without a support. All high-quality Binoculars and Spotting scopes come with a tripod fitting.
If you are able to call into either shop and discuss your requirement, we will be more than happy guide you towards the best compromise between magnification, brightness, weight, cost and quality.
Which is better? A spotting scope or binoculars?
For serious, long-range viewing, maintaining light gathering power at high magnifications involves a fair amount of glass that is both heavy and expensive. Making do with the view through just one eye has its advantages. Also, the stereo vision obtained from using both eyes diminishes with distance. A serious birder will mostly commonly be seen with a spotting scope, firmly attached to a tripod, slung over one shoulder en-route (excuse my French) to the next location.
Swarovski are the Spotting-Scope masters and their modular system is the pinnacle. In recent years, they have introduced the BTX binocular eyepiece so that you can pretty much have the best of both worlds.
